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Columbia colorized the Stooges - New DVDs 8/10
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Brent Seguine
21 years ago
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Columbia is releasing 2 new Three Stooges DVDs on August 10:
- 4 shorts on each DVD, each short in both original B&W and Colorized
formats
- A "chromacolor" feature, that will allow viewers to toggle between
B&W and color using a standard remote control
- 5 shorts not on DVD before; 3 are re-releases (*)
- $24.95 each, or a 2-Pack for $44.95

Stooged & Confoosed:
VIOLENT IS THE WORD FOR CURLY *
YOU NAZTY SPY!
NO CENSUS NO FEELING
AN ACHE IN EVERY STAKE

Goofs on the Loose:
MEN IN BLACK *
THE SITTER DOWNERS
PUNCH DRUNKS *
PLAYING THE PONIES

Let the discussions and differences of opinion commence...

Brent
D. Kirkpatrick
21 years ago
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Post by Brent Seguine
- 4 shorts on each DVD, each short in both original B&W and Colorized
formats
- A "chromacolor" feature, that will allow viewers to toggle between
B&W and color using a standard remote control
- 5 shorts not on DVD before; 3 are re-releases (*)
- $24.95 each, or a 2-Pack for $44.95
Uncut or the C3 versions with the inserts? Do we know ?

DMK
John Spillane
21 years ago
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Ahh yes.So we all have the option of watching these beautiful b&w's in
the horrible colorized version by just one click of the button?Hooray!!

P.S If I had a dime for everytime I pleaded,nooooooooooooooo...... to
the notion of colorizing the stooges? I'd have a private jet on 24hr
standby.....
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Post by Brent Seguine
- 4 shorts on each DVD, each short in both original B&W and Colorized
formats
- A "chromacolor" feature, that will allow viewers to toggle between
B&W and color using a standard remote control
- 5 shorts not on DVD before; 3 are re-releases (*)
- $24.95 each, or a 2-Pack for $44.95
Uncut or the C3 versions with the inserts? Do we know ?
DMK
Ltb3105
21 years ago
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Post by John Spillane
Ahh yes.So we all have the option of watching these beautiful b&w's in
the horrible colorized version by just one click of the button?Hooray!!
Oh no, not that!!
BeAStooge
21 years ago
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Subject: Re: Columbia colorized the Stooges - New DVDs 8/10
Date: 5/28/04 3:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Post by Brent Seguine
Columbia is releasing 2 new Three Stooges DVDs on August 10
Uncut or the C3 versions with the inserts? Do we know ?
DMK
All of the 1998-present DVDs are taken from Columbia's library, complete.
(With one exception... 1935's THREE LITTLE BEERS is missing 20 sec. due to a
technical oversight.)

The TV syndication package that you reference, co-produced by C3 and Columbia
in 1998 for broadcast TV stations, has never had anything to do with home
video.

(There may be a few stragglers out there, but that crappola broadcast TV
package ran out it's contracted welcome for most TV suckers, I mean "stations,"
last year.)
John Spillane
21 years ago
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Nice lineup card.
Post by Brent Seguine
VIOLENT IS THE WORD FOR CURLY *
YOU NAZTY SPY!
NO CENSUS NO FEELING
AN ACHE IN EVERY STAKE
MEN IN BLACK *
THE SITTER DOWNERS
PUNCH DRUNKS *
PLAYING THE PONIES
Let the discussions and differences of opinion commence...
Brent
FEreighter
21 years ago
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Of the 8 shorts listed, according to Sony Pictures Repertory (Sony's print
rental arm), only "Punch Drunks" is in their "vault" as a "New or Archival"
print.

Makes you wonder why they don't both restore AND b&w/colorize their archives.

Don't forget, those of you against colroizing; that you have the control
button, and 5 of the 8 have not been on DVD before.

Frank Reighter
dwacon
21 years ago
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I like the idea of maybe sepia tone...

But if done right, color could be good...

Just make them unabridged episodes...
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teem
21 years ago
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The color better be a hell lot better than what is shown on cable these
days,absolutely horrible color!.
!
Post by dwacon
I like the idea of maybe sepia tone...
But if done right, color could be good...
Just make them unabridged episodes...
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Is now using antacid to deal with reality
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Ltb3105
21 years ago
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Post by dwacon
I like the idea of maybe sepia tone...
Post by dwacon
But if done right, color could be good...
Henna color at all!
dwacon
21 years ago
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Post by Ltb3105
Post by dwacon
I like the idea of maybe sepia tone...
Post by dwacon
But if done right, color could be good...
Henna color at all!
ROFLMAO
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The generation that used acid to escape reality
Is now using antacid to deal with reality
http://www.dwacon.com
James Neibaur
21 years ago
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Post by dwacon
But if done right, color could be good...
Just make them unabridged episodes...
Colorizing them is the same as editing them. It is altering the original
for no good reason.

These films were shot in black and white. Release them that way.

JN
John Spillane
21 years ago
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I remember once watching a 16mm colorized print of A Plumbing We Will
Go.The color was absolutely horrible.He practically ruined the
print.There were shadows everywhere.There was also alot of orange and
blue contrast.What my friend did was dip the print in color.Soaking,as
he called it,for a certain amount of time.Letting it dry.I didn't know
what the hell he was talking about.Now gather,I don't no anything more
about colorizing,then I know about the back end of the moon. How do they
colorize it?
Post by James Neibaur
Post by dwacon
But if done right, color could be good...
Just make them unabridged episodes...
Colorizing them is the same as editing them. It is altering the original
for no good reason.
These films were shot in black and white. Release them that way.
JN
James Neibaur
21 years ago
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Post by John Spillane
How do they
colorize it?
Unecessarily

JN
Spelvin
21 years ago
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Post by James Neibaur
Post by dwacon
But if done right, color could be good...
Just make them unabridged episodes...
Colorizing them is the same as editing them. It is altering the
original for no good reason.
These films were shot in black and white. Release them that way.
JN
I think all movies should always be shown the way they were originally
shown.

When I was a kid, and didn't know any better, I'd sit and watch movies
on television, such as "The High and the Mighty" or "A Star Is Born."

These movies were filmed in CinemaScope, color and stereo. I was
sitting there watching them pan and scan, b&w and mono -- and they were
cut and interrupted every five minutes by obnoxious commercials.

The funny thing is -- no one complained!

We didn't know anything then -- now we know all we need to know. I
would never sit and watch a movie desecrated like that again. I want
everything to be the way it was filmed originally.

I no more want the Stooges to be colorized than I'd want to watch the
color sequences of "The Wizard of Oz" in black and white again, as I did
in the dumb old days when it was shown on TV annually and we didn't have
a color television.

Spelvin

P.S. I'm also afraid that after widescreen televisions become standard,
old 1.33:1 ratio films like the Stooges' will be stretched out to fill
the widescreen! People think their TV screens are sacred, and
everything must conform to them.
James Neibaur
21 years ago
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Post by Spelvin
I no more want the Stooges to be colorized than I'd want to watch the
color sequences of "The Wizard of Oz" in black and white again, as I did
in the dumb old days when it was shown on TV annually and we didn't have
a color television.
Even since DVDs, I have become pretty intolerant of watching widescreen
films broadcast at full screen. I can't believe premium movie stations
still show films like "2001; A Space Odyssey" in full screen.

It's sacrilege.

JN
Ltb3105
21 years ago
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Post by Spelvin
I no more want the Stooges to be colorized than I'd want to watch the
color sequences of "The Wizard of Oz" in black and white again, as I did
in the dumb old days when it was shown on TV annually and we didn't have
a color television.
I know, I remember the first time I saw WOO on a color set, I was shocked to
see Dorothy step out of the Kansas home into a wonderland of color!!!

Amazing.

Laura
Ltb3105
21 years ago
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Post by James Neibaur
Colorizing them is the same as editing them. It is altering the original
for no good reason.
These films were shot in black and white. Release them that way.
Not only that, but the pricing's going to be steep....45 bucks for just 5
shorts?

Sheesh.

Laura
Bobster123
21 years ago
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Post by Ltb3105
Not only that, but the pricing's going to be steep....45 bucks for just 5
shorts?
Sheesh.
Laura
Columbia just doesn't get it!!!!

Universal is releasing 8 Abbott and Costello features on two DVD's and only
charging $20 (that's $2.50 a feature), and they're selling like hotcakes!!
Same for their Monster Legacy collection and Ma and Pa Kettle titles.

Let's see- the Stooges made a total of 190 shorts for Columbia, right? They
could release five volumes of 38 shorts each (or ten volumes of 19 shorts), in
chronological order (as Universal is doing), and they'd sell even better than
any of the Universal DVD's!!!
James Neibaur
21 years ago
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Post by Bobster123
Let's see- the Stooges made a total of 190 shorts for Columbia, right? They
could release five volumes of 38 shorts each (or ten volumes of 19 shorts), in
chronological order (as Universal is doing), and they'd sell even better than
any of the Universal DVD's!!!
Indeed they would. The A&C sets are selling tremendously, even in very
general, mainstream markets, and it has a lot to do with getting so many
feature films for such a small price. I wish the Stooges were offered in
the same way, as they would certainly be selling enormously.

JN
Bobster123
21 years ago
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Post by Ltb3105
Not only that, but the pricing's going to be steep....45 bucks for just 5
shorts?
Sheesh.
Laura
Warners has released seven Marx Brothers features in a box set for around $50.
That's only $7 a feature.

Columbia decides, instead, to add colorized versions to their DVD's and charge
us $9 for a short.

Stooges fans never get a break!!! :)
Spelvin
21 years ago
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...
You are SO right! Columbia seems to be the most clueless of all the
companies. I have bought ZERO Stooges DVDs because they're just too
overpriced (I have a lot of the VHS releases.)

Meanwhile, I'm not even a FAN of Abbott and Costello, but I've snapped
up those DVD sets because I wanted to support the concept and the
reasonable price.

I agree with you -- if Columbia would do for the Stooges what Universal
is doing for Abbott and Costello, they might have one of the all-time
best selling DVD series on their hands. What in the world is their
problem?

Spelvin
Ltb3105
21 years ago
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Post by Spelvin
if Columbia would do for the Stooges what Universal
is doing for Abbott and Costello, they might have one of the all-time
best selling DVD series on their hands. What in the world is their
problem?
I don't know, but doing this colorized crapola's gonna turn off even the most
diehard fans like ourselves from buying them.

Now that I think of it, I've been scouting all the Sam Goody's, Best Buy's,
etc., and don't even see the Columbia VHS tapes anywhere!

Suncoast Video used to carry quite a few titles, but they moved out of the D/FW
market and the nearest one to me is just too far to drive to.

Laura
Bobster123
21 years ago
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Post by Spelvin
I have bought ZERO Stooges DVDs because they're just too
overpriced (I have a lot of the VHS releases.)
Meanwhile, I'm not even a FAN of Abbott and Costello, but I've snapped
up those DVD sets because I wanted to support the concept and the
reasonable price.
I picked-up the FRANCIS THE TALKING MULE set at Best Buy tonight- 4 features
for $14- and really excellent quality.

Hats off to Universal for releasing such great box sets at such unheard-of low
prices.

Next on my DVD buy list- the Don Knotts Collection- will have 4 features- all
in widescreen.

Looks like all of my DVD money is going to Universal these days (and will
continue to until Columbia gets with the program).

Also- I noticed it's not just Columbia that's not with it. I saw Disney's THE
LOVE BUG 4-feature set in Best Buy tonight selling for $60.
James Neibaur
21 years ago
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Post by Ltb3105
Not only that, but the pricing's going to be steep....45 bucks for just 5
shorts?
and two of them re-releases that we likely already have.

JN
John Spillane
21 years ago
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This is from memory.
Moe:"A $140 bucks.That makes it $70 dollars apiece Larry."
Moe:"By the way,how old were you when you graduated grammar school?
Larry:"18
Moe:"18?"19,20,21.Say,How old do ya have to be to collect social security?"
Larry:"65"
Moe:"65? 66,67,68,69,70.There we are."
Shemp:"The Robber."....................Heavenly Daze 1948.
Post by James Neibaur
Post by Ltb3105
Not only that, but the pricing's going to be steep....45 bucks for just 5
shorts?
and two of them re-releases that we likely already have.
JN
Ltb3105
21 years ago
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Post by John Spillane
How old do ya have to be to collect social security?"
Larry:"65"
Moe:"65? 66,67,68,69,70.There we are."
Shemp:"The Robber."....................Heavenly Daze 1948.
"Love it, love it!"
Markshark989
21 years ago
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Not that anyone asked me, but here are my thoughts on this announcement. Also,
I'll mention that so far, I have yet to get any of the already-released
Columbia DVDs. I'll get around to it one of these days, I suppose...
Post by Brent Seguine
- 4 shorts on each DVD, each short in both original B&W and Colorized
formats
- A "chromacolor" feature, that will allow viewers to toggle between
B&W and color using a standard remote control
I'm not a fan of colorization, but hey, if they want to toss it in as an extra,
knock yourselves out, as long as the original B&W is there.
Post by Brent Seguine
- 5 shorts not on DVD before; 3 are re-releases (*)
Absolutely no excuse for that. There are 190 Columbia shorts, a good portion of
which never even came out on VHS, and many more which have yet to be issued on
DVD. These guys should know better after the backlash that Columbia Video got
when they released 13 VHS volumes of Stooge shorts, then took a
three-year-break, then released half a dozen new tapes with one "new-to-video"
short and two repeats each. Evidently, they got a lot of negative feedback (and
those tapes must have tanked), because they were all withdrawn and the "new"
shorts were all re-released later in new compilations with other previously
unreleased shorts.

These guys should know better, but then, why does it not surprise me?
Post by Brent Seguine
- $24.95 each, or a 2-Pack for $44.95
VIOLENT IS THE WORD FOR CURLY *
YOU NAZTY SPY!
NO CENSUS NO FEELING
AN ACHE IN EVERY STAKE
MEN IN BLACK *
THE SITTER DOWNERS
PUNCH DRUNKS *
PLAYING THE PONIES
Let the discussions and differences of opinion commence...
Brent
Thanks, Brent...
Martin Nike
21 years ago
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I gave up on these long time ago - the binary strooge newsgroup suffices!
John Spillane
21 years ago
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What the f*** is with those people and colorizing stooge shorts????It's
like painting a mustache on the mona lisa.
...
Frank J. Lhota
21 years ago
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Just about everyone in this NG agrees that colorizing the Stooges are a
terrible idea, but unfortunately many young people have a deep aversion to
black and white. Yes, these poor viewers with their fear of monochrome end
up missing "Bringing Up Baby" in order to see "Gigli", but Sony has decided
that it is easier to capitulate to public demand rather than try to educate
the audience.

We can take solace in the fact that the B&W versions are still available.
zol
21 years ago
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Post by Frank J. Lhota
Just about everyone in this NG agrees that colorizing the Stooges are a
terrible idea, but unfortunately many young people have a deep aversion to
black and white. Yes, these poor viewers with their fear of monochrome end
up missing "Bringing Up Baby" in order to see "Gigli", but Sony has decided
that it is easier to capitulate to public demand rather than try to educate
the audience.
We can take solace in the fact that the B&W versions are still available.
The local paper here ran the AP article about this on the front page. They
included a picture in color and black and white, kind of a side by side
comparison. However, the color registration was off a bit ( the blue was
out of line with the rest of the colors), so the picture looked just like
the old style colonization.

zol
KS Computers
21 years ago
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I don't mind the colorization so much but the price is ridiculous compared
to A&C volumnes. I doubt I'll be buying a set that is that expensive.
...
They
Post by Frank J. Lhota
included a picture in color and black and white, kind of a side by side
comparison. However, the color registration was off a bit ( the blue was
out of line with the rest of the colors), so the picture looked just like
the old style colonization.
zol
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